Trump kissing Putins ass in Helsinki infuriated a lot of Americans. The Ropucha-class landing ship can transport 10 main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 BTRs and 340 troops or 3 main battle tanks, 3 2S9 Nona-S, 5 MT-LBs, 4 army trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo. The Telegraph values your comments but kindly requests all posts are on topic, constructive and respectful. Whilst the Canada and now Mexico border problems are now very real indeed. Something that clearly says were here, and were flying over Ukraine and you arent stopping us. 5 Im not entirely sure how/where you have Ur info ref Astutes having v limited Comms when dived from? I think youll find the Poles really ramping up, unlike us Brits who have more horses than tanks, the Poles have superannuated their winged hussars moumts and morphed onto modern MBTs. In such cluttered close waters, the 4.5 inch is probably the best weapon and only weapon you would need. If I see him Ill ask. The Marshal Ustinov, a large cruise missile ship, is one of a. Biden??? Mr Putin is aware that as Ukraine does not belong to Nato, there will be no military response by Western states. They may be old but the Russians have used some of them very hard on the Russia/Syria Syrian Express run. Nine Royal Navy ships have completed a "concentrated operation" to shadow seven Russian warships, the British Royal Navy said Thursday, citing "unusually high levels of activity" in the English . The situation is quiet at the moment but when Idlib lights up the Russians will be there in force. The Armys flip ups on procurement have disengaged us from effective land ops in NATO context. THE Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships stalking Britain's coast in the past two weeks. The trick is to sort the rubbish and the facts, with good journalism there is always some good Intel to be gleaned. Launch control was always in Moscow. U.S. officials have said Russia might attack Ukraine as early as this month when the ground will be harder, making it easier for tanks and other armour to move swiftly. Germany was starved to death in WW1 by the blockade of the North sea and WW2 bomber command destroyed its industrial might. In a meaningful way I mean putting forces on the ground and in the air. I think not, and the point is that this illustrates that Nuclear Insurance works! Should they choose to do so. Lots of disinformation out there I dont understand how Trump takes no blame on either side of the Atlantic for signing the peace deal with the Taliban of all groups but Biden blamed on this board with no push back. In an announcement on Monday, the agency said the surprise. Its perhaps worth considering that just supposing a few Russian armoured/infantry detachments had been deployed in and around Baghdad at important government and military sites as peacekeepers/observers or an actual hostile force, then would the 2003 invasion of Iraq have taken place? Last night, Kiev hailed Britain for sending anti-tank weapons and troops as an 'important first step' to help the country defend itself. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. why? One can hope that cooler heads will prevail, and we start sorting ourselves out! Russian Navy ships can be seen in satellite imagery approaching the Ukrainian Coast. George is on Twitter at @geoallison, Comments may automatically be held for moderation by our team, they will be approved as soon as possible in accordance with our. he said. As to the vaccine mandate, you are aware of the cross US/Canada border restrictions that came into force today that affect 50% or so drivers and the log jams in US west coast ports? Invasion of a NATO state or even probably Sweden Im sure would. Screen for heightened risk individual and entities globally to help uncover hidden risks in business relationships and human networks. Its more difficult now given the numbers they have positioned. Something will give as you cannot maintain an army at this sort of readiness indefinitely. production rates are a worry. No-one will be able to fight back in an all in war today. Thanks Mark it just seems that the way that some outlets are reporting this ongoing story ,could in fact do more damage than good .As with some people on these threads ,that are goading eachother into what better weapons would do the most damage ,when the most destructive weapon is their Mouse/keyboard I know its just keyboard banter but my God theres some who really do want it too kick off. The White House corrected the off the cuff remark from the long press conference. While the oil tanker Kama turned on its AIS tracker, the frigate Admiral Gorchkov kept it off to stay under the radar. All vessels travelling through the Bosphorus have to book passage where a Turkish pilot will board to insure safe passage, that includes men of war irrespective of nationality. His advanced years are often publicly evident in his performance. Although hailing the recent 24.1 billion uplift in Defence spending as reversing a long period of decline, General Carter did not say how much of the new money will fill the existing black hole of around 10 billion in the MoDs 10-year equipment budget. Sheer incompetence being the only major navy in the world to not have AsUW capability beyond a 4.5 pea shooter. By Sam Greenhill Chief Reporter for the Daily Mail. Rocks?' The only ones being childish are the politicians, the oil industry and those that choose to ignore reality. The BBC said shots were fired and that as many as 20 Russian aircraft were "buzzing" the British ship. With you on this DL, some interim AShMs on all T45/T23sbut Mr Wallace is here in Sydney at the moment. Perhaps all they want is a buffer zone with no NATO assets in sight? Yep scapegoating the most powerful National leader in the world because his big stupid plan is tell the Russians he wont militarily defend the Ukraine. Build the strongest argument relying on authoritative content, attorney-editor expertise, and industry defining technology. Are Putins dirty secrets going to be revealed? Just been channel hooping with various News outlets and what I can gather is that the Ukrainian public are just getting on normal Living , it would seem that the 24hr News channels are too blame for the So called tensions just like a certain plot for a James Bond movie with Johnathan Pryce as the TV mogul who wants too start a War for Ratings. Russia has repeatedly denied that it is planning an invasion and instead demanded that NATO bar Ukraine from membership. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. Its not a valid comparison in 2003 the Russian was in a post Yeltsin mess and in no way capable of acting as a deterrent to US forces. The N Koreans are starving again. Murdaugh is heckled as he leaves court, Two Russian tanks annihilated with bombs by Ukrainian armed forces, Ukraine soldiers shoot down enemy drones with drones of their own, Dozens stuck in car park as staff refuses to open gate for woman, Missing hiker buried under snow forces arm out to wave to helicopter, Insane moment river of rocks falls onto Malibu Canyon in CA, Fleet-footed cop chases an offender riding a scooter, Isabel Oakeshott clashes with Nick Robinson over Hancock texts. Likewise the presence of Nato tripwire forces might just persuade Russian planners to step back. Pity we didnt keep developing the 6 system fitted to Tiger and Blake? Russia has brought in new forces to Crimea, which it annexed from Ukraine in 2014. Initially other then a echo sounder suite for navigation which is a safety requirement, there are no current plans for a ASW fit on the T31s, for the reasons you have stated. He wants to get some skin in the game like the West has had the past 20 years. HMS Tyne, HMS Richmond and HMS Kent jointly escorted the same group of Russian ships as they operated in the Celtic Sea. At the end of the day it isnt going to be Britain v Russia, It will would be a NATO coalition. Who do you think signed the peace deal with the Taliban you delusional fool? Yes China has been throwing money at increasing the capabilities and sheer size of its military in it race to become the worlds dominant hyper-power. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken will meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday before holding talks with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov in Geneva on Friday in the latest attempt to defuse the crisis. UK, US and some Baltic states seem to be the only ones that seem they maybe willing to fight. We printed something like 45 billion sterling to deal with the pandemic yet fail to commit to proper spending to save our own planet. Protect their own borders through forward defence. [However] when youre up against a determined opponent on the battlefield you have to go close and personal with your enemy. Warships belonging to the Russian Northern Fleet have sailed through the English Channel in a routine and lawful passage through British waters. UK could learn a few things by this process and not immediately scrap stuff. And hand wash Plane Cleaning popping up everywhere? The weakness is in Biden. We reported earlier that amid ongoing tensions between Russia and Ukraine, the Russian navy has sortied 5 Ropucha-class landing ships and one Ivan Gren-class landing ship from their Baltic fleet, likely headed to the Black Sea. Its a gap that worries the ranks the most! 14:30 GMT 20 Jan 2022. In a hastily arranged trip, Secretary of State Antony Blinken was set to arrive in Kiev last night to meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. With what? "We can appeal to common sense, demand respect for international law, and if that doesn't work, we can bomb," Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told Russian news agencies. But they need to be postured in way that showed the West meant business. Some showed messages saying:'Be afraid and expect the worst.'. The RN suffered badly in the Falklands through short sightedness and gaps in capabilities, and is sadly doomed to suffer again unless it takes the enemies and their capabilities and tactics seriously. A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. 'Russia is stopped when it is stopped, not when Putin decided that he achieved enough.'. A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. return to the tri nations agreement of 1899!! Their problem then, as now, in terms of getting into the EU, was/is corruption. Unfortunately we are in a poor starting position militarily, as is most of NATO if things escalate. It had been thought Mr Putin would choose the 'simple option' of sending troops into the Donbass region in south-eastern Ukraine and then negotiate for it to become an independent state, providing a buffer between pro-western Ukraine andRussia. Itll make Snatch Landrover fiasco look trivial. if 25% could actually get out of harbour before breaking down! I think itRead more , Hi Dave ,knife through Butter with todays build of warships we can but dream a larger build of Destroyer with 6in either single or twin fully Auto good fire control radar no need for the old 274/75 sights or LAS just ops Rm fire controller and PWO but alas smaller ships and bores seem too be the way fwd with The MOD. The RF receiver can help to lock onto a RF signal that matches something a target ship would emit. And the balls to back up that posture with action if necessary. T31 is being procured to a strict budget, to get these vessels built and in service pretty quick, and we can upgrade once in service if the need requires it, they are large, and will be a very flexible design allowing more kit to be integrated over the years. I cant imagine we would though, as it could cause an incident in the channel. We live and learn. Type 23 frigate HMS Northumberland, based at Devonport, watched the movements of Udaloy-class destroyer the Vice-Admiral Kulakov as it sailed north-west of the Outer Hebrides. No warning shots had been fired and no bombs had been dropped in the path of the Royal Navy destroyer Defender, it said. I cant believe Putin seriously wants to invade Ukraine he would lose far more than he gained. loads of shps. We should grant him that and make it a reality. 'We're now at a stage where Russia could at any point launch an attack in Ukraine, and what Secretary Blinken is going to go do is highlight very clearly there is a diplomatic path forward. At talks this week with the United States and NATO, Russia has sought security guarantees to defuse the crisis. That basically, means the UK has signalled that it is disengaging from effective land operations in a NATO context. Well they didnt of course and no sympathy was deserved . "The Royal Navy will always uphold international law and will not accept unlawful interference with innocent passage," Wallace said. "Despite the increase in Russian activity, both on the surface and underwater, we are always ready to respond.". Leading to our militaries being optimised for fighting second rate foes. Thanks for that. In Moscow, Russia summoned Ambassador Deborah Bronnert for a reprimand over what it said were Britain's "dangerous" action in the Black Sea - while foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova accused London of "barefaced lies". We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Russia seized and annexed the Crimea peninsula from Ukraine in 2014 and considers areas around its coast to be Russian waters. Today : UK Navy Shocked, 7 Russian Warships off UK CoastNine Royal Navy warships are shadowing seven Russian warships after "unusually high levels of activit. It said: "The crew of the frigate 'Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov' conducted an air defense exercise in the Norwegian Sea. They can receive Comms 24/7 without having to come to PD, they do not surface to receive Comms, so no difference between a ship receiving an update or a SM. Which could be read either way. NSM is able to navigate by GPS, inertial and terrain reference systems. Wow so they first entered service about the same time as the Type 21s ! View our online Press Pack. The assessment said Moscow had deployed troops to the border on a 'permanent' basis and said the movement of 'stockpiles of ammunition, field hospitals and security services' to the hinterlands confirmed 'the preparation for offensive operations'. British warships escort Russian fleet through English Channel, Turkeys first dedicated intelligence-gathering ship, TCG. "The crew conducted an exercise to repel the means of an air attack of a simulated enemy in the Norwegian Sea.". Most of its armour is 25+ years old, its tube artillery is a similar age and is seriously out ranged by modern Russian systems and they have just announced a cut in numbers to about 75,000..! Yes theyve probably done more to modernise than laggards such as Argentine or Germany, but in conventional terms the European members of NATO alone could militarily contain Russia without Americas help. He sees weakness and disharmony and a split America with half the voters seeing thier Country as an island totally ignorant of what losing Europe would mean to the US position in the World. Several European nations have now moved to bolster Natos military deployment in eastern Europe. lol. Didnt work out too well last time. Seems a bit left-field but the Swedes seem to be taking things seriously. Putin is serious about sabre-rattling and applying miitary pressure. Which begs the question why? It seems a good time to propose it in the commons. At this distance we could also send a cutting out party/borders Im sure! I somehow doubt it. Complex rules of engagement, and a pretty good chance you wont hit the intended target. it was not to long ago that a few Russian soldiers died in a Russian barracks collapse, dont believe your own hype, and considering the Ukraine people are fighting for its independence, where they are stationed does not matter. Biden is shaping up to be just as bad and hopefully another 1-term wonder. No, but it would be interesting to know what Circumstances would trigger that. On Monday, two C-17 transporters left the UK with 2,000 armour-piercing missile systems and soldiers to teach Ukraine's forces how to use them. They believe Mr Putin's troops are being positioned in line with his new objective, with armoured divisions set to head into neighbouring Belarus on exercise but now stationed within striking distance of Kiev. The Iranians are being bombed at will. Who is bombing the Iranians? UK and French jets team up against simulated aerial threat, Britain, Italy and Japan merge combat aircraft projects. "I am sure that such a powerful weapon will allow us to reliably protect Russia from potential external threats and help ensure our country's national interests. And in the Western Military District, a missile regiment armed with S-400 Triumf mobile, surface-to-air missile system conducted electronic launches at a range in Leningrad region. Supplying intel and light weapons will not change the outcome much , Russia will win regardless of the losses shell receive. It is very obvious where they are going, staring you right into your eyes!! If Russia invades what do they do next? Dictators will at any cost hold onto power. https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/01/us-sends-more-military-equipment-ukraine/361042/ With the clown we have as PM? The waters wont be crowded, NOTAMs would clear potential conflict areas fast. Actually, its an interesting point. Australia just signed an agreement with UK Defense minister to dedicate Wharf and logistics to readily accommodate Royal Navy ships basing them selves there . He said the countries were 'united in their resolve' against Russian aggression. Turkeys first dedicated intelligence-gathering ship, TCGUfuk(A-591), was officially commissioned into service at Istanbul Shipyard in Tuzla, Istanbul, on 14 January, smail Demir, head of Turkeys Presidency of Defence Industries (SSB), has announced. Helicopters for the littoral, Nuclear boats for larger vessels. Looking to impress on Moscow the need for de-escalation, he and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov decided yesterday 'it would be useful' to meet in person on Friday in Geneva. At least they didnt decimate their armed forces like the UK and most of its allies as a result of peace dividend at end of cold war. I am generally centrist and an issues rather than party man and had high hopes for Biden. Six Russian landing ships have sailed past Britain sparking speculation they are bound for an impending 'full-scale invasion' of Ukraine - as Kiev warns President Putin has 'nearly completed' the build-up of troops along the border. "These are Ukrainian waters and it was entirely right to use them to go from A to B," Johnson said. Bit long in the tooth-just like David, CR!(says he who is about to turn 73). Your posts are very aggressive. However there is some good reports if you know where to look. The Ropucha-class landing ship can transport 10 main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 BTRs and 340 troops or 3 main battle tanks, 3 2S9 Nona-S, 5 MT-LBs, 4 army trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo. LOL Ivan you really are poster boy for Putin . I think one of Moscow's long-standing goals has been to try to sow divisions between and within our countries and quite simply, we cannot and will not let them do that. The Russians are on drawdown but maintaining overwatch I understand. Hope you dont mind but Ive sent your comment to HQ, should be worth a raise. The US Putting a small number of troops in Ukraine is a line in the sand a powerful symbol of intent to the Russians of repucussions if they invade. 'How can we be given a chance to defend ourselves if you're not giving weapons? Assassinations of nuclear experts. Also known as SPEAR capability 5. Ill accept naval power but always is a bit sweeping. An analogy would be how the small number of US troops placed in both Syria and Afghanistan deterred attackers until they were removed andlook what follows. Didnt Bidens Son in law have an interest in the Ukraine (monetary) ? The big question is-could this conflict once started, and if NATO do get involved, be limited to a conventional battle? The . When people toured the Viktor Yanukovych presidential palace, they were shocked at the grandeurRead more , Step back guys, the roots of this situation lie decades ago. In comarison with previous pictures those ships are sailing well loaded. As far as Im aware there isnt any part of the channel that is not either British or French waters. The other question which has been posed before-if the Ukraine had not given up its nukes, would Russia risk starting a fight with them? America last night warned the Kremlin of 'massive consequences' as its top diplomat flew to Europe for last-ditch talks aimed at averting war. . The group thinkers on here have no idea of the N2 capabilities of RU and without AsUW the RN is in danger of being decimated before tea time. So, USA has no troops in Ukraine? We are in a potentially high risk scenario all it takes is a trigger point. In new training drills yesterday, three dozen Russian warplanes including Su-34 fighter-bombers, Su-25 attack aircraft and MiG-31 fighter-interceptors flew from airfields in Perm, Krasnoyarsk,. Russian warships have been spotted off the British coast. Unless of course you are a Putin oligarch;0). Agree entirely with what you say but I feel Trump was the one who emboldened Putin in the first place with his wimpish behaviour and with Biden following and little if any better, then no wonder Putin is considering pushing his luck. So the design probably dates back to the late 1960s / early 1970s, so getting a bit long in the tooth..! The explosion inside an oxygen factory in the town of Bandar-e Mahshahr, south of Tehran. Er, as infantry, I had all of 9 seconds according to the briefing table on the Majors desk reading down the list and RMP were given 36 hours; and the rest is history. Russian deputy Defence Minister Alexander Fomin confirmed that the mission includes the relocation of two S-400 mobile surface to air missile battalions, a Pantsir-S battalion and 12 Su-35 fighters for the 'surprise' inspection and drills. the disaster of the BEF and lack of anti tank capability that was promised in the event of conflict, sadly never materialised. Kongsberg have said that it will also be fitted to NSM. On the face of it, Trumps position on the Right of the political spectrum, should have placed him as a hard opponent of the Russians but he was like a contrite schoolboy sitting next to Putin. "It is a hypersonic sea-based system - [and the vessel has other] latest-generation weapons. I would love it if we did do that. good job that idiot trump doesnt have access to the red button or the west would be rubble. Europe? Correction. It can be logically assumed that KALIBR capability willRead more . Their Intel also saying that they see no particular problem. By
Britain was unexpectedly embroiled in a diplomatic and military dispute with Russia on Wednesday after Royal Navy destroyer HMS Defender briefly sailed through territorial waters off the coast. Biden is standing up to Putin in every way logical. ", DON'T MISS:Vladimir Putin braced for Kremlin 'ultra-nationalists' mutiny[REPORT] West puzzled after Putin evacuates warships and submarines from region [REPORT] UK tanks to cause 'real problems' for Russia on Ukrainian frontline[REPORT]. Morning Spy. , As you can see from the pic at the top the Russian ship is within visual range. That was not my point: NATO has antied up and put boots on the ground, who are prepared to fight. Britain disputed the Russian version of events, with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab calling it "predictably inaccurate". Turkey's Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu said on Saturday that the death toll in Turkey from last month's massive earthquakes has to 45,968. 'I am not ashamed to ask to help us with everything that is possible to avoid this war. Test capabilities. 'It is the choice of President Putin and the Russians to make, whether they are going to suffer severe economic consequences or not.'. 25% might just be enough, with the right weapons onboard! Ukraine was in part happy to negotiate them away for exactly that reason. I have little doubt that corruption in Russia has led to some pretty shoddy construction. 'This is extremely dangerous. NSM has a IIR seeker so it can discriminate but the target still needs to be there when it arrives to be discriminated against! Or how much BS the kremlin comes up with, I think RT chat forum is your home you have many friends there Ivan lol. Tobias Ellwood said Russian President Vladimir Putin was taking full advantage of a weakened West. HITLER AND NAPOLEON DID AND LOOK WHERE IT GOT THEM. Its a land grab and a hard lesson to NATO not to expand further east and Im afraid Ukraine who have been pro west since independence will pay the price. He is testing NATO unity and Bidens willingness to risk the wrath of those voters while knowing any faltering step in those voters eyes be it commitment of weakness will bring back a Trump style Govt withRead more , I do wonder if another motivating factor could be something more base than that. Should be a 10 year rule everything gets stored for at least 10 years in case needed. Severn was also on patrol as the Vice-Admiral Kulakov sailed through the Channel. General Carter, who joined the Royal Green Jackets in 1977, has been head of the armed forces since June 2018. One of Russia's newest, most advanced warships - the Admiral Gorshkov - docked in Havana some 90 miles from the southern tip of Florida, amid Russia's warnings to the U.S. about deploying missiles near Russia, the Associated Press reported Monday. 210 comments about a decades old routine RN escort operation. However, the MoD has failed to reveal which, if any, of the existing equipment programmes will be cut to reduce the funding gap. Actually having checked further the major problem the USA/Canada are having are the same that most countries are. However, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said he may consider halting the pipeline if Moscow attacks. Global Britain is an illusion. Idiocy. We all have opinions and may not always agree but nice to keep things civilised. Ukraine has long accused Russia of having regular troops in the region, something Moscow denies. NATOs multinational battlegroup in Bulgaria reached full operational capability on Wednesday. Your logic makes no sense. 'Should Russia invade, we will provide additional defensive equipment to Ukrainians.'. Since then its been regular movements in/out as the Russian military cycled as many as possible through Syria for the experience. "Escorting the Russian task group alongside forces from our NATO allies has demonstrated the UKs commitment to the alliance and to maintaining maritime security.