Although we gladly accept donations offered it is not required. These worldly churches still call themselves Baptists but in fact they do not believe or practice what true Baptists have historically believed and more importantly what the Word of God says. It is the Lords tithe, and God chose to use his tithe in the OT and in the NT for the maintenance of the priesthood (those that are called out for the specific service of God in ministering to the Lord and to the people on behalf of the Lord) and the maintenance of the house of God a place wherein Gods people assemble for the purpose of worship (honoring) the Lord. 6:30, Titus 1:9-11, II Tim. However, bottom lineJesus never shared but truth to all incl Phairsees so if His position on tithing was as being not to be left undonethan I believe it stands as something that is good to do, pleasing to God. Actually what should have been first was the erroneous teaching that water baptism has anything at all to do with ones salvation, it does not! I went on to share with her that in that same passage it says, singing psalms, hymns (which by the way modern churches are throwing out) and spiritual songs. In 1688 a Baptist church was organized at Pennepeck, Pennsylvania with twelve members. I do like your nice touch of calling us idiots though. Found you after all this time!!! It did not produce a succession of other churches, but those who founded it went on to set up other Baptist churches in England. Sir, This means that IFB churches do not look to creeds, confessions, or church councils to determine their doctrinal positions. . Historically, Baptists were never a part of the Roman Catholic Church or the Protestant Reformation and therefore can not be correctly called protestors or Protestants. The validity of a church as being a true Biblical New Testament church does not rest in it ability to show an unbroken line of succession from the time of Christ. They all hold to a system of hierarchy in church government and do not accept the autonomy the local church. Our Pastor teaches that Baptism does not save us and is no a requirement of salvation. 5.) Don't expect anything contemporary or liberal. He said from the pulpit, No one ever asked me if I was a Christian while out in public! Im thinking thats not a good thing. These things I write unto you that ye may know that ye have salvation. These are the mistakes one finds when following man-made theology. You have it backwards. By 1626, the churches had grown from one, to five churches and by 1644 there were forty congregations. Later, the Dutch issued new orders and allowed religious liberty. Visited Calvarly Chapel her in Rosedale areahas tith online but what they view is unclear. You stated that all churches tithe a certain way and used that fact to justify a way of thinking. God uses us, to the extent that get out of His way. I think that point was already addressed. The Puritans were dissenters from the Church of England. He was much displeased with the Puritan theocracy. (Quote from Dr. J. M. Carrolls booklet The Trail of Blood) These historians, in an attempt to show an unbroken line of Baptists in history, have embraced groups which were clearly not doctrinal sound. Biblical Mandate for BaptistDeception.com. Please do not take this the wrong waybut coming from someone who I think is more objective (i was not raised in a IFB, just joined, been a part of non-denm & other denm fellowships), well here goes in love: it almost seems like you have an axe to grind with IFB Church. 13:17, Acts 20:28, Eph. Pastors tiptoe around specific sins so not to offend. I assume you are referring to the errant position that many Pastors, Deacons, or Elders have taken placing themselves between God & Man. Unaccountable. I have to chuckle every time I think about a comment our former IFB pastor said about lifestyle evangelism as he puts it. This was the first time in the history of the world that a government was established which granted religious freedom! Clearly, he was banished because he believed in religious freedom and believed and taught the New Testament was a believers sole source for his faith and practice. I would directly compare doctrine and practices using scripture to make the assertion which is correct. I can certainly forgive you. If your church does teach the following then watch out, you are probably in a manipulating extreme IFB church situation. King Ethelbert and his court, and a considerable part of his kingdom, were won over by the successful monk. However, in the midst of all this apostasy, which was the founded the Roman Catholic church, there were groups of Christians who were never a part of the Christianization of the Roman Empire. Thus the words Independent and Fundamental have been added by many Baptist churches to further identify themselves as truly Bible believing churches and to show a distinction between themselves and Baptist churches who were not following Gods word. Many men have suffered and given their fortunes and their lives to hold the name in truth. Today the name Baptist is used by many churches who are not truly following the teachings of the New Testament. 3. He returned to Salem where he was summoned before the court in Boston because of his outspoken beliefs and was banished from the colony. Also, when only what we do for Christ will last would include contributing to kingdom endeavors. I would either be kicked out or asked to put on something to wear. They loved the Lord and many of them gave their lives and fortunes for the sake of Christ. By 1644, these congregations grew to seven churches. The word Fundamental means that the Baptist church uses the New Testament strictly as its authority for faith (doctrine) and practice. Again adhering to correct doctrine and proper practices should be the focus in our lives. 1) strict adherence to one version of the bible It has received 39 reviews with an average rating of 4.7 stars. 71 N., De Queen, Arkansas 71832, United States of America DeQueen Flag Listing Claim This Listing Arbanna Baptist Church I apologize for my assumptions! 3. The true Independent Fundamental Baptists have no association or fellowship with these churches because they teach or practice things contrary to the New Testament. It became an independent church in 1746. 77. Independent Baptist Directory of Churches. Particular Baptist had their beginnings around 1616, when some dissenters left the Church of England and were lead by the Rev. Hah Im really the only reply to this incredible read?! I attend an IFB church. We use our monetary resources alone. Thier is nothing harmful in regard sto relating to other denominations if ny that you mean fellowships that are Christian. I think Calvary Chapel churches are great. But this issue is just another one that the IFBs get wrong, worrying themselves over externals as opposed to the internals. God has not entrusted that authority to impart salvation to any man or church. https://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/175-pauls-contradictions-of-jesus.html. I think I already addressed that point. We also have a man that shouts Amen as well. They, however, will only fellowship or cooperate in joint meetings with churches of like belief. PEOPLE are the problem! Matthew 7:1&2, Judge not, that ye be not judged. The New Testament teaches the absolute autonomy of each local church who is to govern itself as the Word of God instructs free from outside authority and control. There he became the pastor of the Puritan church. It may be this passage of Scripture Paul had in mind when he said I am innocent of the blood of all men because he had taught them the whole counsel of Gods word. Im all about modest clothing, but I cant tell you how many sermons I have sat through where the man of God railed against women wearing slacks. The bulk of your comments were about the historical background of the Church of Christ movement. I already estb basis of why Tithing I believe is good (must read all post under Lynne). If you think women ought to wear pants, thats your prerogative. Anyway at least once a year we set up a tent and have an old-fashioned revival. In fact, no church on earth can make that claim. I would prefer just wearing casual clothes like I do just about every time. In 1684, a Baptist church in Maine seeking greater religious liberty was relocated to Charleston, South Carolina. There's only one way to heaven, and that . Independent Baptist Churches is a subsite of IndependentBaptist.com. In 1539 thirty one more who had fled to Holland were apprehended and martyred there. They were in fact churches founded on the same New Testament principles that modern day Baptists traditionally founded their churches. In North Carolina the first Baptist church was started in the northeastern coastal region at Perquimans, in Chowan County in 1727. Would you say Calvary Chapels are unbiblical and not fundamental? You seems to be as blind as the Pharisees. I watched a man die last week. As far as I recall no church ever told me must. We are not under law, but under grace. Im looking forward to laughing at more of your comments. So just these few examples demonstrate why many people, including me have a hard time understanding this ancient translation. Catholic Influences on the Modern Translations, 66. Bob Just want to commend you on how clearly you are able to elucidate on a given topic, Im envious. Please excuse me. I wish you well in your new school and church. Those who put in the effort will be greatly rewarded while those who neglect it do harm to their own souls. These people give Jesus and Christianity overall a black eye every time they go to a military funeral or any other event they have absolutely no respect for. IMO, this is is baptist deception at its absolute worst. I was able to better understand the New Testament. 6.) It was my burden since then that it seems Jesus wants to gather His flock, but the Wolf in Sheeps Clothing really scattered the sheep resulting to lots of denominations. Assistant Pastor of Fellowship Baptist Church in Watertown, WI since 2017. I really have an issue with this point. I humbly asked a question. Its the phraseology itself that one calls into question as being logical or illogical. The name Fundamental Independent Baptist is of recent origin and came into being because many modern day Baptist churches compromising the Word of God and teaching and practicing false doctrines. KJV Independent, Fundamental Baptist Churches in the USA . The New Testament teaches that Christ is the head of the church,(Eph. Through preaching the New Testament, the Gospel went forth in power and the Baptist movement grew rapidly. No one I have ever talked to or debated can show me that money is ever to be considered a tithe. List your KJV Bible Believing Church for FREE! The natural question then to ask is, What makes a person a true Baptist? In examining the history of Baptists and determining what makes up a genuine and true Baptist, five distinctives should be noted. Tithing I believe is liberty. I have done my share of research on what defines a cult and unless Im missing something, we dont qualify as a such. Christians under the grace economy give out thankfulness to God for what Christ has done for them, without any compulsion. We must agree with John Smyth, the true New Testament church is founded on its belief and practice of the Scriptures, and not on any outward succession of a visible or invisible organization. We are friendly Fundamental Independent Baptists, k ind-of like the church your grandparents might have once attended. I would like comment on each trait if you dont mind: You are truly blind and I hope that you will one day see more clearly. They tried to establish that according to history, Baptists have an unbroken line of churches since Christ. I respect a church that weloclmes being a part of my tithe but does not mandate that I do. Believers are not set apart by the clothing they wear so much as their conduct, character, and lifestyle. Greg, Im surprised but shouldnt be by now that folks know so very little about their respective churches/traditions, most just sit in the pew and simply repeat what their pastor has told them, never checking and studying for themselves, what thus saith the Lord You act so surprised that I questioned you about which Church of Christ you were referring to, do yourself alittle favor and have a look at wikipedias lists of Churches of Christ First and foremost I wanted to make sure you werent referring to the The Church of Christ of Latter Day Saints which is a flat-out cult.