Here is a poem given to Dutch Tennis Star Tom Okker by his mother on his first trip to Australia in 1964. whatever the game and whatever the odds And when he tackled at Success in one long, vicious prod Play Up! Anyways thank you once again. There is another story here. if(cookiePair[0] === name) { This exact version was framed and hung on the wall in my parents bedroom. B. Downie and art by Lee Mero. The piece hung first in my grandmothers } googletag.pubads().enableSingleRequest(); To put Grantland Rices career in Grantland Rice terms, he doped it out with the best of them and gave the world the magical, majestic musings of a wordsmith who clattered away on his contraption amid the smoky din of a packed press box. You can see the full poem below your comment now also. Grantland Rice, "Alumunus Football," Only the Brave and Other Poems, p. 144 (1941) More quotations on: [ Sports] Grantland Rice New Year - Old Poem - Great Sport January 8, 2010 by Paul Smith As it's the start of a new year (not a new decade - isn't that next year? Many thanks. } I didnt realise it was an actual quote and not just a line made up by a brilliant scriptwriter. Wow Steve this is truly intriguing. "Events.SushiEndpoint": "https://unagi.amazon.com/1/events/com.amazon.csm.csa.prod", Also have a look in the comments and youll see another Lions player who used to quote this verse to his children a long long time ago. A Biblical reference to the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, this famous account was published in the New York Herald Tribune on October 18, describing the Notre Dame vs. Army game played at the Polo Grounds in New York City: Outlined against a blue-gray October sky the Four Horsemen rode again. Our family has a metal plaque from the Shapleigh Hardware Co. with this quote, no author referenced. Regardless of who wrote it they are powerful words and an acid test as to whether a coach or a player really believes in sportsmanship will they post the poster up? fetchBids: function() { My research suggests the plaque was produced by Shapleigh between 1897 to 1908. It was not his first golf event, but it was the one that seemed to pull him toward the game.[8]. Bill had the speed-Bill had the weight-Bill never bucked in vain; So, with the sheepskin tucked beneath his arm in football style, Bill put on steam and dashed into the thickest of the pile; With eyes ablaze he sprinted where the laureled highway led- When Bill woke up his scalp hung loose and knots adorned his head. She was born in 1932 and was Scotch Irish and grew up in Beaumont TX. Whereas Robert, you suggest Jacob B. Downie (Irish name?) Henry Grantland "Granny" Rice (November 1, 1880 July 13, 1954) was an early 20th-century American sportswriter known for his elegant prose. Sorry to jump in here. }, The tumult dies, the cheer is hushed, the stands are bare, the park is still. Dad regularly uses this quote. His brothers were much older than himI suppose the poem was printed sometime in the time between 1910 and 1925. Please accept my condolences on the death of Brother Eamonn Chato ODonnell. Many thanks for your clarification. We inspire a new generation with amazing, true, two minute stories about sportsmanship. First I was looking for some back ground info on it. The full poem is here: In fact, this link opens up a few other sources. Rice was born in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, the son of Bolling Hendon Rice, a cotton dealer,[1] and Mary Beulah (Grantland) Rice. So were the teachers who taught the small children, the doctors who tended the sick, the congressmen who made the laws and the jurists who administered justice. This is intriguing. var googletag = googletag || {}; But you never can lose, and you never can fail g.parentNode.insertBefore(A, g) And, kid, cut out this fancy stuff go in there, low and hard; (function () { Bill put on steam and dashed into the thickest of the pile; Kevin Blackistone, Washington Post columnist and University of Maryland journalism professor, wrote in an email that Rice and his peers of that time promoted outwardly, or tacitly, the racist segregation of sport., It wasnt until Lester Rodney in the mid-(19)30s for the socialist paper The Daily Worker started challenging sport to tear down the color barriers theyd erected in step with Jim Crow laws, Blackistone said of the catalyst for change. Many thanks. try { David, that is very helpful. Enter your email address below and we will email you new posts: Portuguese Players Shake Englishmans Hand After He Scores, Silence was broken by a dog barking outside the packed stadium, Paris the perfect setting for reunion of Invincible Lions, Not That You Won or Lost but at Great Moments of Sportsmanship, http://www.library.vanderbilt.edu/speccol/research/guides/bios.shtml, Not That You Won or Lost but Great Moments Of Sportsmanship, http://www.greatmomentsofsportsmanship.com/spread-the-moments/, Not That You Won or Lost but | Great Moments Of Sportsmanship, New Year Old Poem Great Sport | Great Moments Of Sportsmanship, Bush League or Little League? Across the field of play the dusk has come, the hour is late. Unlike many writers of his era, Rice defended the right of football players such as Grange, and tennis players such as Tilden, to make a living as professionals, but he also decried the warping influence of big money in sports, once writing in his column: Money to the left of them and money to the right [CDATA[ Two of these poems I cannot find anywhere..It looks like Mr. Delong was editing for someone. } catch (err) { Great to hear others use these great words also. Share our stories. Peggy this is fantastic. My dad was the youngest of 5 boys and he was born in 1921. Then he opened his own insurance business. As such, it can be served by no apologies or defenses, Fountain wrote, and deserves damnation less than it deserves understanding.. , It wont be whether we won or lost, ODonnell perhaps his people were from Donegal in Ireland? Who is the author? Through Rice's eyes we behold such sports as bicycle racing, boxing, golf, baseball, football, and tennis as they were played before 1950. To defeat your opponents today; And thats where Grantland Rice, in todays terms, gets complicated. went on to be a school teacher and Principal at Tarbox School. Thank you Karen for this intriguing insight. It just gets more intriguing all the time. And you always were doing your best! Thanks Geoff. This quote was on a huge poster on the wall of the mess building. In fact it is worth reading the comments others have made over the years. Rices memoir includes accounts of hanging out with Ruth in his Chicago hotel room the night before the called shot home run in the 1932 World Series against the Cubs; hunting wild turkey with his good friend Dan McGugin, the legendary Vanderbilt football coach; and drinking with Rockne at his home the night before the 1928 Notre Dame-Army game Rockne told Rice he was thinking about telling his team before the game about the words of George Gipp on his deathbed in 1920, to ask a Notre Dame team at some point to win just one for the Gipper.. I have also got some feedback from Linkedin Sports discussion which I wil try and dig out and post here soon. The massive Guard named Failure did a toddle on his spine. ), I thought the full sportsmanship poem is a good way to kick off the new year. Hilarious stuff Dave many thanks. This discussion has been going on since 2008 and Ive never heard this angle. How far away the goal posts are that called us to the play. I see that Tabor was a well known calligrapher. HELP ME LORD Across the field of play the dusk has come, the hour is late. ~ Paul. Thanks hhevers, Ill watch out for the movie. This verse was at the head of a Red Smith sports column in the New York TIMES in the 1960s-70s era when the lowly NY Giants ALMOST upset the mighty Baltimore Colts with Johnny Unitas, The Colts were a twenty-point favorite with the odds-makers, but the final score came up something like 22 to 19 Colts, so Red Smith was praising the Giants. If you insert poem into our search box youll see some beautiful replies. Christmas 1927 With the Grantland Rice name in this thread, I thought I would throw this curveball (hahahahaha )Lee Mero married Kathryn Rice in 1920!!!! var e = document.createElement("script"); e.src = "https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41mrkPcyPwL.js"; document.head.appendChild(e); thanks again. var cookie = cookies[i]; (Augusta National / Getty Images). By The Way, If you enter the word : POEM into the search engine in the top right hand corner (with the magnifying glass icon), you will find 3 different posts/articles about For when the one great scorer poem, and, more interestingly, you will find some even more intriguing comments suggesting the source of this poem. Dont sit there whining-hustle up and keep on coming back; Keep coming back with all youve got, without an alibi, But we can play so that our name, Christmas 1927" With the Grantland Rice name in this thread, I thought I would throw this curveball (hahahahaha )Lee Mero married Kathryn Rice in 1920!!! Uruguay wow! 1 9 8 6 . "It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game." Grantland Rice tags: paraphrased Read more quotes from Grantland Rice Share this quote: Like Quote Recommend to friends Friends Who Liked This Quote To see what your friends thought of this quote, please sign up! Rice authored a book of poetry, Songs of the Stalwart, which was published in 1917 by D. Appleton and Company of New York. Excuse me: They specially promoted the practice of sports. Money everywhere they turn from morning to the night window.Mobvious.device_type = 'mobile'; By post-WWI the company along with other fine publishing houses were framing poems, also referred to as poetry from the heart and now Buzza mottoes. He writes not that you won or lost but how you played the Game, I agree with John Miles because I found this poem and it was said to be written by Grantland Rice and published in The Nashville Tennessean. That was a couple of years ago. //]]> It is gold leaf with a picture of two dueling horses with men in coats of armor. [4] On the football team, he lettered in the year of 1899 as an end and averaged two injuries a year. In this famous College, when I was a very little child, I learned this very short poem, just as I wrote it here. Sweet are the dreams of college life, before our faith is nicked- // var gads = document.createElement("script"); FYI I just posted a link to a video of an American basketball player Chris Herren, ex pro and recovering addict, and one who sees what sport is all about fun. More information coming in so please have a look at some of the other comments particularly one very recent comment from Steve Cowers. The debate also continues elsewhere on this site as we occassionally post this verse to see if we get any different comments see July 2009 and also in Jan 2010 . This puts it in the late 1910-20s at the latest. house in Colgate, Oklahoma when Dad was growing up. So sorry, Paul! Thats not to say Rice was an outspoken advocate for change before it happened. To write against your name, He marks-not that you won or lost-. I would love to read the whole poem again. He hung it in our home in the 60s, and when Dad died in 2007, at age 86, it was here in his house. During a game against Muncie Central in which our team, the Artesians, were trailing at halftime and were thoroughly dejected, the 'Ol Fox jumped up on a bench as we headed back out to the court. Smith attributed the verse to Grantland Rice. It was my grandparents and I want to pass it on to my son. Henry Grantland Rice was born in 1880 in Murfreesboro, Tenn., and opted for journalism after graduating from Vanderbilt in 1901 and playing for the Vanderbilt baseball and football teams. Let young and old read Read more Not That You Won or Lost but function q(c, r) { Thanks, Many thanks Wendy. Paul, Amazing Robert. If you put all youve got in your play; For the greatest reward that your efforts can bring, Someone is sure to lose. pubID: '3211', adServer: 'googletag', bidTimeout: 4e3, params: { aps_privacy: '1YN' } Jose seems to be really passionate about wanting to look better and wanting to be more healthier. Fascinating stuff. [CDATA[ I am delighted with your information. "ebfg_email", "ebfg_sms"]; Grantland Rice on tel/mic, c. 1920. Game Called. Many thanks Ann. } What an enchanting verse. He lauds the Dodgers for breaking the Major League Baseball color barrier with Jackie Robinson. I Never Played the Game Howard Cosell with Peter Bonventre 10. And thank yo again for sending us the poem from your schooldays. Rice chronicled a bigger moment for sports and society, the 1936 Olympics in Berlin. I know nothing of the origin of this poem. Brother Eamonn Chato ODonnell, who was the brother who did the most to establish rugby and the rugby spirit in the school, died recently, and the last two lines of this poem were cited at his memorial service by a colleague Brother Thomas ODonnell as indicative of how he lived his life. Richard Beale previously suggested the poem, Alumnus Football, first appeared in an article written by Grantland Rice for the Nashville Tennessean in 1908 to describe a Vanderbilt alumnus football game. Hell write not that you won or lost Rices style has been criticized as schmaltzy and overly sentimental, even by some of his contemporaries. Through Rice's eyes we behold such sports as bicycle racing, boxing, golf, baseball, football, and tennis as they were played before 1950. // Sorry Thats the reason for my mistake. Coincidentally, I spoke in Notre Dame and we now have a great alliance. The plot thickens. I suppose Mr. Hitler is much too busy a man to stay out there forever. throw new Error("could not load device-specific stylesheet : " + err.message); Bill hit the line and ran the ends like some mad bull amuck. Your grandfather sounded like a lovely man. There we learned the English language, Religion, and all the other signatures. 35 likes All Members Who Liked This Quote Nicholas 438 books He praised the inclusion of black athletes in major professional sports and wrote about women in sports with the respect many of his colleagues did not. He knows some are asking this question: If all the Confederate monuments and tributes are wiped out, at what point are the Jefferson or George Washington monuments founding fathers but also slave owners in jeopardy? session: { id: "869-7942173-5192773" }, Taylor Spink Award posthumously in 1966 from the Baseball Writers Association of America for meritorious contributions to baseball writing. Rice accepted the blame for putting "that much temptation" in his friend's way. He won the 2009 Pulitzer Prize for his biography American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House, wrote a celebrated biography of Thomas Jefferson and was chosen by the Bush family to write George H.W.
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